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not too sure either the publicity of it, or just the whole concept of twilight. just turn me off.
anyone have such experience? or just me, being too old for the *Vampire world*
Yeah. I think it is a really overhyped and dumb series. And I think that the whole vampire craze is even worse. There are so many vampire serieses out there right now. It's rediculous.
Well, I haven't read the books or seen any of the movies, but it all seems really overdone, like when Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings came out books/movies respectively. Though I do like both of those. I do find that most books made into movies are usually better in the book form. This series seems to be written mainly for teen girls with some sort of love story in it between human and vampires or something. These just didn't catch my interest and there are lots of vampire/werewolf/paranormal stuff out there anyway.
It's a fad, just like the zombie craze which is arguably just as popular. Having read the entire series I have to say it has some good and bad points. The latter half of the series isn't too bad, especially the final book. She's not a bad writer, though I find the romance aspect of the series really frustrating. Bella has to be one of the most annoying protagonists I've read in recent memory, and Edward plays at being far too perfect and charming for his own good, and then when he breaks the mold, it's so out of left field that I couldn't help but be surprised. As for Jacob...well, frankly if there's any character I can sympathize with it would be him.
Then there are the movies...oh geez, don't get me started.
To be perfectly honest I found "The Host" written by the same author to be a far better read than Twilight. Despite its semi post-apocalyptic setting, the characterization, romance and overall plot was just way easier to swallow.
Not one bit interested in the books or the movies.
All I'll say is I love the Twighlight series. I also love the Twighlight Zone.
Read the first book when it originally came out, pre-fad. My friends caught on and filled me in on the rest of the series after the fact. I had no interest in reading any further. I saw the first movie, just for comparison.
It's brain popcorn. You gain absolutely nothing beneficial from interacting with the Twilight universe, but you're likely to just get addicted because it's in front of you.
That said, it's terrible. It takes every aspect of what makes a good relationship and negates it. Edward is an abusive, manipulative, overprotective and overreactive boyfriend, and Bella exhibits all of the markers that one might see of a girl in a battered women shelter.
I can't stand Twilight. Honestly I wouldn't speak to my mother for ages after she made me go at 3 A.M. to see goddamn Eclipse, although admittedly it was much better in comparison to the first two. But still. If you want a good vamp series, not intended for teenage girls, go read Anita Blake. hahahaha
it's like socker, they run around for 2 hours, nobody scores and then millions of people tell you just don't understand
I like twilight, but I sort of don't because as I think about it it's really stupid. Then, I can't speak much more because I'm just finishing up Eclipse...
urg, twilight, i fail to see what is so amazing about it, i really do... a friend got me the first audio book for christmas, never listened to it, maybe, i will download the books to see what it's about, or not. the same thing happened with harry potter, didn't like it, but never gave it a chance till i asked my dad to bring me to the first movie because i wanted to see what it was all about and ended up getting hooked. sigh, so i'm not touching the twilight books incase the same thing happens...
Darkwing, it sounds like you're affraid to like it even. If you like it, you like it, if you don't you don't.
Can't say I'm against it, just am not much interested in vampirism. The last good version of DRACULA I saw was with Frank Langella; I am still having nightmares based on it. Michael Nouri made a good vampire in the '78 series "Cliffhangers". I'm afraid I had a killer migraine when I saw a version of DRACULA with actor Gary Oldman, so I don't recall much.
There are good books out there about the history of the legend, from the source, Prince Vlad Tepes of Wallachia, through the Communist and post-Communist history of Romania. The best I could reccommend would be Dan Simmons' "Children of the Night". An old friend was once married to the daughter of Romanian immigrants in the midwest, so he confirmed some of the aspects of the culture, how they view the spirit world.
So, go to your local super market. Find the down right cheepest, lowest quality mac and chese you possibly can (with the powdered chese). Go home and over cook that pack until its just about at the mac and mush point and add in the cheese, leaving absolutely no moisture or anything to help it mix in, followed by a pinch or five of onion powder, chilli powder, pepper, sea salt, and garlic. Force your self to eat the hole pot, with out a drink... That's how my experience with losing a bet and having to read the first book felt.
She's an absolutely horible writer that fails to creatively or even correctly use dialogue, paceing, effective writing macanics to tell a story while throwing in a libral amount of slanted relationship ideals. Edward comes across as more of a controlling stalker and the rest of the characters are biggited or lacking in some way. With the acception being bella who serves as the books bland boring character for the lacking teenaged girl to insurt her self in the place of. Not to mension the story it self... I wonder what the long standing social effects of these books will be on the way those obsessing over them live life. Hell, just think of what both young men and women are being shown as ok. No one seemes to see it... It makes me think I should jump on the band wagon and write a lacking book similar with creepy characters and warp peoples minds for money. It looks so easy.
What about the book Fledgling? I stumbled upon it almost by accident and aside from Dracula and, dating myself yet again, the Lost Boys, I'd had no experience with vampirism, especially vampire lovers. I had thought of them always as death-defying killers. In Fledgling, it's the girl that's the vampire, but no I haven't read Twilight and won't mostly because I don't like teenage bubblegum.
I asked my daughter if she'd read them and she was actually insulted I asked: How could I think she was so shallow? I told her to chalk it up to ignorance, at that time I had no idea what the books were even about.
It's a bunch of teenage bullshit. I read the first couple of chapters of the first book, and it made me sick. She's such a boring writer. And what's this nonsense about sparkling vampires? Come on, bring on the blood, gore, and all the rest of the horror stuff. Gees. I'll be glad when it's over. I even found a group on facebook made up entirely of Twilight haters. :D
I slogged through the whole series, just to see what was so wonderful about it. Yes, I'm much older and the wrong gender for the target audience, but sometimes I like to sample things a bit outside of what I normally read. Yeah, it wasn't too great, but enough went on for me to at least want to know what sorts of trouble Bella got into next. A friend of mine put it very well in my Livejournal blog some time ago. "Bella is a twit." I agree. Two annoyances: 1. Bella has major abandonment issues, she literally can't function properly without Edward around. 2. Non-scary vampires for the lose.
Reminds me of that little kids show 'Dragon Tales' I think it's called, my daughter watched it when she was little. I think it was PBS who did it. Anyway took me awhile to figure out what the dragon was: not a scary treasure-hoarding firebreather but some impudent little giggler you just want to kick around. What's this with removing the monstrosity from monsters? They're monsters, and conquering them is fun!
See, I was personally okay with the way she portrayed vampires, though at the same time it made me wonder why Bella would want to be next to a stone cold everteen (literally that's what he is). I think, despite some undeniable problems (mainly being bella and edward's characters, and their relationship) some aspects of the story were not too bad. I've actually read the whole series as well, and I was honestly quite impressed with how unique the final confrontation was in the fourth book. Not some typical action fight scene, but something entirely different. No one scene doesn't make up for some of the silliness peppered throughout the series. But if you can look past bella's annoying personality, it's not the worst series in the world by any means. I think it's just become the "in thing" to hate Twilight on principle.
THe whole twilight thing is conflicted; it seems that twilight is the innest thing on the planet to half the world, and the other half thinks it's the thing in life just to hate it. It's a big irony; that's what it is.
I've toyed with the idea of downloading the first book, just to see what all the whoopla is about, but that was a very brief toying. Why should I trudge through a series that has all the features I can't stand: rice paper-thin plot, incredible characters who grate on my last nerve, impossibly overwrought dialogue? Anne Rice did this vampire bit much more sexily about 30 years ago.
If you're going to start reading anything by this author, I highly recommend startoing with The Host. It's a much more mature and (in my mind) interesting book. It's a bit of a sci-fi post-apocalyptic romance, but the romance is handled way way better.
the whole idea of vampirism just turn me off completely. and i can't understand why there are people bother to admire such. there aaready some demmage twilight series have done to relationships. teenagers and young adults comparing their partner with Edward, and break ups do happen due to that.
yes, it is a figure, but the way the series purtraying a relationship is beyond real.
I'm ignorant of the whole genre of romance fiction, but aren't most characters in romances pretty idealized, so they're nothing like real living breathing people and real people probably couldn't live up to those ideals. Am I wrong here? .
No, you're not wrong. ... although in twilight I swear there's nothing what-so-ever idea about the girl...nothing.
that is because the girl in twilight is nothing but a hollow shell for the impressionable girls in the teenage reading group to project themselves into. she is supposed to be so lacking in identity, that a girl could see some part of herself in bella, and thereby identify with her. It puts her in the book. That is probably the biggest reason so many young girls have gotten so caught up in the twilight craze. they can see themselves as being bella, and needing rescue by the super strong vampire, or being fought over by the hot werewolf. it makes the lives they live look so pointless, and allows them to live out the fantasies they have in secret.
Oh, and I think its probably one of the most boring book series I've ever read, and the movies were awful.
Agreed completely with the poster above. Couldn't have put it better. This is the thing they don't get when they read it. Or they just read it for that reason.
And the verry ideals presented in these books will doo even more damage than we think, I think.
have a read of this--makes some great points about the really insideous side of the series http://tinyurl.com/qfsq6u
After I red the book, I had arguments about it being highly sexist, I'd find posts like that one to afferm it with people that didn't get it when I said it.
if i'm going to read trashy vampire fic. I would read something at least sexy. give me sooki or true blood any day. While both protagenists get under my skin Bella gets under my skin and provides hours of bordom. I thought edward was cute but try hard, and sparkley? screw that. Jacob was a winey anoying snot faced little teenager who made me either want to shrink him back to infancy or throe him at a wall,. The rest of the charicters were fluff, and the over detale. ug.
give me vampires give me sex and violence,
or it's not vampires it's story hour at the library. I take it back i wouldn't even put my children through that.
I'm not into it either, and don't understand what all the hype is for.
I tried reading it, 17 pages is as far as I got. I got bored. but, I have heard stuff about it that I don't like. The ethics in it I don't like and the fact that Edwards is so controling. There's a lot of other stuff too.... It's just interesting in general.
I read the first book to see what people were talking about, but I thought it was poorly written and really boring. I agree with Damia: the Sookie Stackhouse series is MUCH more captivating.
Personally, I think it's annoying when something becomes a fad like this, and people get obsessed over it. I love the LOTR books, but some people get positively obsessed. I do not like either Twilight or HP, but like Godzilla, I read both series, just to try and see what the hype is about.
the changing of the traditional vampire myths didn't really bother me. they're myths: they don't always have to stay the same. But, someone else said this, I think Guardian. Bella is positively the most frustrating main character ever written! The biggest problem I have with all those characters is that they're insanely over protective of each other! Yuck! Half the trouble that happened in those books wouldnt' have happened if everyone wasn't trying to protect everyone else. I couldn't stand someone close to me being that sheltering, and I hope to God I'm not that sheltering of anyone close to me.
Bella is such a lousy model for a teenaged girl. She's weak, stupid, and annoying. She doesn't get even remotely interesting until she becomes a vampire herself, and then only to a point.
OK, rant over.
I hate twilight! I read a bit of it to humour my teenage sister because she is truly obsessed and has read the series 5 times now. Also tried watching the film but just sat there thinking that something exciting was bound to happen at some point but of course it never did! I do think it is sexist personally, a lot of it is mormon propaganda and the idea of the human/vampire relationship is meant to encourage the whole abstenance thing. I wouldn't have a problem if it was fictional! but I don't like the idea of something like this trying to send out didactic messages to teenage girls. But the main thing that struck me about it was that it was just very boring!
Hmm, I guess I didn't see the Mormon propaganda in it. I know Meyer is Mormon, and I've heard this accusation leveled at the books before, but I don't see it. She never says a thing about religion, never advocates it. She touches somewhat on issues of the after-life: the character Carlisle believes that there is hope for vampires in the after-life if they are killed, Edward's character does not. But that's as close as she comes to any religious issue.
It'll be interesting to see if anyone parodies the Twilight books the way they did with the Harry Potter books. You can only find one of them on, say Audible.com but there's a series of books that blatently parody the Harry Potter seris. You can follow the adventures of Barry Trotter, Ermine Cringer and Halfwit as they attend Hogwash School and try to thwart the schemes of the sinister Lord Value Mart. I've never actually read them but I plan to if I can ever get my hands on them. I think one is called Barry Trotter and the Unauthorized Parody or something like that. But there's apparently already a movie out that spoofs the Twilight movies. It'd be interesting if there's ever a book written in the same vane. And then of course there's Board of the Rings, obviously a parody of Lord of the Rings. And I think they even made a board game out of that one.
not too sure about the Mormon either, as i'm not in to it at all, and can't stand twotlight for the very first half of the first book.
isn't it they used to said that harry porter have some sort of curse on it too? like you chant certain verse on HP for thousands time, it will come real or something. and i do know that they are churches, christianity movements bann their members reading harry porter. although, funny enough, i dont hear any such on twilight, or twotlight if you like.
also, not too sure what the last post gotta do with this topic? just wonder
Well, the topic is about not liking Twilight, and I get the feeling Bryan doesn't. So, he wouldn't mind seeing it made fun of.
Actually I do, but I still wouldn't mind seeing a parody if it was well done. And Capachino, his name is Harry Potter, not Harry Porter.
hahaha! Harry porter? that's funny. er.... well, I am a Potter fan only because I got in to it at eight, if I read it now I'd probably not think so much of it. but Harry Potter is Harmless, I think it has a few stupid flaws here and there but it's not really as bad as twilight, at least it has substance.
and vampires don't sparkle! I am sorry, they just don't! and I like rowlings version of werewolves better with how they only transform on full moon. but then again I am a big moony fan so....., and I like the animagus idea. haha!
and the name bella always has made me think of bellatrix, who I kind of like I just like her dedication to what she's doing I know it's evil but she's not the kind of person who changes her mind like some of the others. anyway...... I've never tried the books since I posted, though.
You'll want to check out the song "Sparkly Vampires" by the Rifftones. I give you this Youtube link which you'll need to copy and paste into your browser.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw9lY1eTKt4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
so far as I am concerned vampires can go die or even better yet, we can let bellatrix have some fun with them. a few curcios would teach them not to sparkle.
I don't participate in the twilight crap. I've nothing against the vampire plot itself, it's just boring tome I guess. But then again, it took me till book 5 came out to get in to harry potter, so, I don't know.
Well, though I love vampire books, I do not like Twilight. It's just rather lame, in my opinion. I like L.J. Smith, though. Her vampiric characters are way more interesting, at least to me. And Damon Salvatore kicks ass! Lol.
haha! it didn't take me that long to get to hp but it was hard to get in to too, think it took maybe five six chapters?
Dude, that Sparkling Vampires song vid is hilarious! Laughed my ass off when I listened to it.